{"id":4782,"date":"2007-02-12T14:39:00","date_gmt":"2007-02-12T12:39:00","guid":{"rendered":""},"modified":"2024-12-14T19:11:22","modified_gmt":"2024-12-14T17:11:22","slug":"epalestine-just-like-life-under","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/epalestine.ps\/sambahour\/2007\/02\/epalestine-just-like-life-under\/","title":{"rendered":"Just like life under Pinochet"},"content":{"rendered":"<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" color=\"#7f0000\" size=\"2\"> <span style=\" font-size:10pt\"> Ha&#8217;aretz<\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\">  <\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\"> <span style=\" font-size:10pt\"> Last update &#8211; 23:07 11\/02\/2007&#160; <\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"4\"> <span style=\" font-size:14pt\"> Just like life under Pinochet<\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\"> <span style=\" font-size:10pt\"> By Nir Hasson&#160; <\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\">  <\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\"> <span style=\" font-size:10pt\"> &quot;The Palestinians&#8217; lives under the occupation are reminiscent of the lives of  Chile&#8217;s citizens under the dictatorship,&quot; says Chilean Judge Juan Guzman,  who is visiting Israel, last week. &quot;There, too, people who thought differently  were considered enemies: They were imprisoned, tortured and killed. There,  too, people couldn&#8217;t move from place to place, they didn&#8217;t have freedom and  they didn&#8217;t have equality before the law. But here it&#8217;s harder. It has been  going on for longer,&quot; he added.&#160; <\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\">  <\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\"> <span style=\" font-size:10pt\"> Guzman, 68, became known at the end of the 1990s as an investigative  judge pursuing Augusto Pinochet, Chile&#8217;s military dictator between 1973 and  1990. Guzman waged a long legal battle against Pinochet. Despite the  former dictator&#8217;s immunity, Guzman succeeded in filing several indictments  against him and bringing him to trial. Pinochet&#8217;s trial was never completed  because of his health, and he died two months ago at age 91.&#160; <\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\">  <\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\"> <span style=\" font-size:10pt\"> Last week Guzman came to Israel as a guest of the Israeli Committee  Against House Demolitions (ICAHD) and the Alternative Information Center  (AIC) to examine indicting Israelis responsible for house demolitions in  European courts. Thus far, legal proceedings have been initiated only  against military officers. The committee wants to indict civilians as well.&#160; <\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\">  <\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\"> <span style=\" font-size:10pt\"> ICAHD has a list of three officials from the Civil Administration, the  Jerusalem municipality and the Interior Ministry who ordered the demolition  of houses. It is seeking to submit investigation requests against the officials  in a European country where the courts have the authority to address  international human rights violations. Guzman is slated to give the  international seal of approval to the move. If such an investigation is  opened, presumably arrest orders will be issued against the three and they  will encounter difficulties in visiting Europe.&#160; <\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\">  <\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\"> <span style=\" font-size:10pt\"> Guzman&#8217;s great antagonist, Pinochet, died on December 10, International  Human Rights Day. &quot;I did not feel satisfaction, but I wasn&#8217;t sad either,&quot; he  says. &quot;Chile lost a historic opportunity to rebuild itself,&quot; he says. &quot;After the  justice system was destroyed during the 17-year-long dictatorship, this was  an opportunity to demonstrate its independence and to prove to Chile and to  the entire world that no one is above the law, that even Pinochet can be  tried.&quot;&#160; <\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\">  <\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\"> <span style=\" font-size:10pt\"> Guzman disagrees with the Chilean Supreme Court, which ruled that  Pinochet was not mentally able to stand trial. He says Pinochet was lucid  until his last day.&#160; <\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\">  <\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\"> <span style=\" font-size:10pt\"> Guzman has been a judge for 36 years. In January 1998, when he was  serving as a judge in the Supreme Court of Santiago, he was chosen to  investigate human rights charges filed against Pinochet and his officers.  Guzman received 98 cases involving Pinochet. He traveled throughout Chile  and conducted a comprehensive investigation into Pinochet&#8217;s crimes.&#160; <\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\">  <\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\"> <span style=\" font-size:10pt\"> Several months later, Pinochet was arrested in London by order of a  Spanish judge, over Spanish citizens killed under the dictatorship. Pinochet  returned to Chile a year and five months later, after a British court ruled that  because of his poor health, he could not be extradited to Spain. Soon after  that, Guzman field his first indictment on charges of responsibility for the  &quot;death squad,&quot; a secret police unit that murdered 75 regime opponents.  Guzman also ordered the house arrest of the former dictator. The decision  aroused a storm in Chile: Rightist elements and military officials took  Pinochet&#8217;s side, whereas the left took to the street to celebrate.&#160; <\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\">  <\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\"> <span style=\" font-size:10pt\"> &quot;It was no simple matter to bring Pinochet to trial,&quot; explains Hebrew  University political science professor Mario Sznajder. &quot;For some of the  country&#8217;s inhabitants, Pinochet was considered the nation&#8217;s savior from the  Communists.&quot; In addition, Pinochet enjoyed immunity after appointing  himself a senator for life, and by virtue of the &quot;amnesty law&quot; he legislated.  This law granted &quot;automatic amnesty&quot; to anyone who committed crimes  before 1978, but Guzman circumvented this in a sophisticated way.&#160; <\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\">  <\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\"> <span style=\" font-size:10pt\"> &quot;I proved the law does not cover disappearances (the fates of more than  1,000 regime opponents are still unknown &#8211; N.H.). Thus, as in cases of  kidnapping, this is a matter of a crime that did not end in 1978, but rather is  ongoing, and until we find out what happened to those people, even if the  amnesty law covers part of the crime, it does not cover all of it. The  Supreme Court accepted my opinion,&quot; Guzman says.&#160; <\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\">  <\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\"> <span style=\" font-size:10pt\"> In 2001, the Chilean Supreme Court ordered the proceedings against  Pinochet cancelled due to his mental unfitness. Two years later, Guzman  came across an interview Pinochet gave a Cuban television station in the  United States on the 30th anniversary of the military coup.&#160; <\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\">  <\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\"> <span style=\" font-size:10pt\"> &quot;He spoke about 158 different subjects and appeared to be in very good and  lucid shape,&quot; recalls Guzman. In the wake of the interview, which proved the  dictator was fit to stand trial, Guzman reopened the investigation. The  Supreme Court again revoked Pinochet&#8217;s immunity, and Guzman filed  another indictment against him, this time for Operation Condor &#8211; the South  American military regimes&#8217; cooperation in persecuting opponents, which  resulted in hundreds of murders.&#160; <\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\">  <\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\"> <span style=\" font-size:10pt\"> Guzman went to Pinochet&#8217;s home and interrogated him. &quot;He could tell the  difference between good and evil, and he could also tell the difference  between what was convenient for him to answer and what was not  convenient,&quot; relates Guzman. &quot;This time he was less nice to me than he had  been the first time. He understood I was prosecuting him. But he did not  insult me and he was not aggressive.&quot;&#160; <\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\">  <\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\"> <span style=\" font-size:10pt\"> Half a year later Guzman succeeded in filing yet another indictment, this  time for what was called Operation Colombo, during the course of which 119  Communist activists disappeared. Their bodies were never found. These  legal proceedings, like others opened by other investigative judges, were not  completed by the time Pinochet died. &quot;These investigations did the country a  great favor. They openly showed what had happened during the time of the  dictatorship,&quot; says Guzman. &quot;Many Chileans did not believe things like that  had indeed happened, and thought they were an invention of the  Communists. But when the investigations began, they started to believe. I  believe that thanks to those investigations, my country will never again fall  into a dictatorship. In Spanish we say nunca mas &#8211; never again.&quot;&#160; <\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\">  <\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\"> <span style=\" font-size:10pt\"> Professor Sznajder agrees. &quot;Guzman&#8217;s importance was that he tried to get  to Pinochet, not as a journalist or as a political opponent, but rather by virtue  of the authority of democratic law. He contributed to eliminating Chile&#8217;s black  hole, to erasing the second version of what had happened during those  years. He touched upon the most painful things, opened wounds, uncovered  facts and brought about a change, even if no verdict was obtained.&quot;&#160; <\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\">  <\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\"> <span style=\" font-size:10pt\"> Guzman has no doubt that like Pinochet&#8217;s officers and officials, Israeli  officers and officials will pay the price of the crimes he believes are being  committed against the Palestinians. &quot;If we learn from history, it appears that  ultimately those who commit crimes against humanity and violate human  rights are judged, whether by a special international court or in a country.  Sooner or later, human right violations come to court,&quot; he says.&#160; <\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\">  <\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\"> <span style=\" font-size:10pt\"> During his trip, Guzman visited two Palestinian families whose homes in  Issawiyeh and A-Tur were demolished. One of the families has been living in  a tent near the ruins for two weeks.&#160; <\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\">  <\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\"> <span style=\" font-size:10pt\"> &quot;I saw them crying. Every home demolition is the demolition of a person&#8217;s  dignity and intimacy, and is prohibited by international law. I have also seen  the wall built in occupied territory. I don&#8217;t understand this, and I don&#8217;t believe  it is connected to security. It isn&#8217;t logical. I am certain there are other ways to  protect the Israelis, and at the same time, the Palestinians must be  protected.&#160; <\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\">  <\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\"> <span style=\" font-size:10pt\"> &quot;I admire the Jewish people for the suffering it has endured and for its  achievements in science, literature and music,&quot; he continues. &quot;I identify with  the Israelis, but my heart is with the people living under occupation and  whose rights are being violated. Israel feels it is the victim of terror, but when  you are here, you realize that what the Palestinians are doing is resisting  occupation. The Palestinians are the victims, they are being exploited, their  homes are being demolished, they are being detained under administrative  orders, their property is being damaged, they need permits to move from  place to place and their cities are becoming large prisons. There is no doubt  they are the victims.&quot;&#160; <\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\">  <\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\"> <span style=\" font-size:10pt\"> Guzman does not make any commitment that indictments will be filed  against those responsible for demolishing homes. &quot;I will study the issue, I  will consult and I will see how the process can be advanced,&quot; he says, &quot;but  there is no doubt that with respect to international law, civilians directly  responsible for human rights violations can be indicted, just like soldiers.&quot;&#160; <\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\">  <\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\"> <span style=\" font-size:10pt\"> Meir Margalit, the field coordinator for ICAHD and the person who invited  Guzman to visit Israel, says he has despaired of the Israeli justice system.  &quot;We feel we have exhausted the option of an Israeli investigator. Salvation  won&#8217;t come from here, and things are getting worse. Every year, about 400  houses in East Jerusalem and the territories are demolished.&quot;&#160; <\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\">  <\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\"> <span style=\" font-size:10pt\"> &quot;I am here on a peace mission,&quot; says Guzman. &quot;I want my activities to  awaken discussion of whether what is happening here is justified. From the  Chilean experience, we know activity like this can cease human rights  violations. 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He does business consulting as <a href=\"https:\/\/aim.ps\/\" rel=\"noopener\">Applied Information Management<\/a> (AIM), specializing in business development with a niche focus on the information technology sector and start-ups.\r\n\r\nBahour was instrumental in the establishment of two publicly traded firms: the Palestine Telecommunications Company (PALTEL) and the Arab Palestinian Shopping Centers (APSC). He is Co-founder &amp; Emeritus Member of <a href=\"http:\/\/a4vpe.org\/\" rel=\"noopener\">Americans for a Vibrant Palestinian Economy<\/a> (A4VPE) and until recently served as an independent Director at the Arab Islamic Bank P.L.C. and a board member at <a href=\"https:\/\/justvision.org\/\" rel=\"noopener\">Just Vision<\/a>.\r\n\r\nHe writes frequently on Palestinian affairs and has been widely published in leading outlets. He is co-editor of <em><a href=\"https:\/\/epalestine.ps\/sambahour\/1994\/10\/homeland-oral-histories-of-palestine-and-palestinians-book-recommended\" rel=\"noopener\">HOMELAND: Oral History of Palestine and Palestinians<\/a><\/em> (Olive Branch Press, 1993), tweets at <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/SamBahour\" rel=\"noopener\">@SamBahour<\/a>, and blogs at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.epalestine.ps\/\" rel=\"noopener\">epalestine.ps.<\/a>"}],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/epalestine.ps\/sambahour\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4782","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/epalestine.ps\/sambahour\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/epalestine.ps\/sambahour\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/epalestine.ps\/sambahour\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/4"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/epalestine.ps\/sambahour\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=4782"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/epalestine.ps\/sambahour\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4782\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":9378,"href":"https:\/\/epalestine.ps\/sambahour\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4782\/revisions\/9378"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/epalestine.ps\/sambahour\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=4782"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/epalestine.ps\/sambahour\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=4782"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/epalestine.ps\/sambahour\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=4782"},{"taxonomy":"author","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/epalestine.ps\/sambahour\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/ppma_author?post=4782"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}