{"id":4592,"date":"2008-07-24T20:28:00","date_gmt":"2008-07-24T17:28:00","guid":{"rendered":""},"modified":"2025-03-21T13:43:53","modified_gmt":"2025-03-21T11:43:53","slug":"epalestine-blogspot-com-72","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/epalestine.ps\/sambahour\/2008\/07\/epalestine-blogspot-com-72\/","title":{"rendered":"[ePalestine] NYT: Tough Love for Israel? (By NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF)"},"content":{"rendered":"

The New York Times<\/span><\/font><\/p>\n

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Tough Love for Israel?<\/strong><\/span><\/font><\/p>\n

By NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF<\/span><\/font><\/p>\n

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On his visit to the Middle East, Barack Obama gave ritual affirmations of his support for Israeli policy, but what Israel needs from America isn’t more love, but tougher love.<\/span><\/font><\/p>\n

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Particularly at a time when Israel seems to be contemplating military strikes on Iranian nuclear sites, the United States would be a better friend if it said: “That’s crazy” — while also insisting on a 100 percent freeze on settlements in the West Bank and greater Jerusalem.<\/span><\/font><\/p>\n

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Granted, not everybody sees things this way, and discussions of the Middle East usually involve each side offering up its strongest arguments to wrestle with the straw men of the other side. So let me try something different.<\/span><\/font><\/p>\n

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After I wrote a column last month from Hebron in the West Bank, <\/span> <\/font> my blog, nytimes.com\/ontheground<\/u> <\/span> <\/font> <\/a> , was flooded with counterarguments — and plenty of challenges to address them. In the interest of a civil dialogue on the Middle East, here are excerpts from some of the readers’ defenses of Israel’s conduct in the West Bank and my responses:<\/span><\/font><\/p>\n

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Jews lived in Hebron for 1,800 years continuously … until their community was murdered in 1929 by their Arab neighbors. The Jews in Hebron today — those “settlers” — have reclaimed Jewish property. So I don’t see what makes them illegitimate or illegal. (Irving)<\/em><\/span><\/font><\/p>\n

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True, Jews have deep ties to Hebron, just as Christians do to Jerusalem and Bethlehem, but none of these bonds confer any right to live in these places or even visit them. If Israel were to bar American Christians from Jerusalem, that would not be grounds for the United States to send in paratroopers and establish settlements. And if Israel insists on controlling the West Bank, then it needs to give citizenship to Palestinians there so that they can vote just like the settlers.<\/span><\/font><\/p>\n

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One side is a beautiful, literate, medically and scientifically and artistically an advanced society. The other side wants to throw bombs. Why shouldn’t there be a fence? (Mileway)<\/em><\/span><\/font><\/p>\n

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So, build a fence. But construct it on the 1967 borders, not Palestinian land — and especially not where it divides Palestinian farmers from their land.<\/span><\/font><\/p>\n

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While I do condemn this type of violence, it pales in contrast to Palestinian suicide bombers, rockets and other acts of terror against Jews. (Jay)<\/em><\/span><\/font><\/p>\n

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B’Tselem, the Israeli human rights organization, reports that a total of 123 Israeli minors have been killed by Palestinians since the second intifada began in 2000, compared with 951 Palestinian minors killed by Israeli security forces.<\/span><\/font><\/p>\n

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To withdraw from the West Bank without a partner on the Palestinian side will find Israel in the same fix it has once it withdrew from Gaza: a rain of daily rockets. Yes, the security barrier causes hardship, but terrorist attacks have almost disappeared. That means my kids can ride the bus, go to unguarded restaurants and not worry about being blown up on their way to school. Find another way to keep my kids safe, and I’ll happily tear down the barrier. (Laura)<\/em><\/span><\/font><\/p>\n

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This is the argument that I have the most trouble countering. Laura has a point: The barrier and checkpoints have reduced terrorism. But as presently implemented, they — and the settlements — also reduce the prospect of a long-term peace agreement that is the best hope for Laura’s children.<\/span><\/font><\/p>\n

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If Israel were to stop the settlements, ease the checkpoints, allow people in and out more freely, and negotiate more enthusiastically with Syria over the Golan Heights and with the Arab countries on the basis of the Saudi peace proposal, then peace might still elude the region. But Israel would at least be doing everything possible to secure its long-term future, rather than bolstering Hamas.<\/span><\/font><\/p>\n

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If there is no two-state solution, there will be a one-state solution — and given demographic trends, that will mean either the end of Israeli democracy or the end of the Jewish state. Zionists should be absolutely clamoring for a Palestinian state.<\/span><\/font><\/p>\n

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Laura is right about the need for a sensible Palestinian partner, and the failures of Palestinian leadership have been legion. At the moment, though, Israel has its most reasonable partner ever — Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas — and it is undermining him with its checkpoints and new settlement construction.<\/span><\/font><\/p>\n

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Peace-making invariably involves exasperating and intransigent antagonists and unequal steps, just as it did in the decades in which Britain struggled to end terrorism emanating from Northern Ireland. But London never ordered air strikes on Sinn Fein or walled in Catholic neighborhoods. Over time, Britain’s extraordinary restraint slowly changed attitudes so as to make the eventual peace possible.<\/span><\/font><\/p>\n

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I hope Mr. Obama, as a candidate or as a president, will be a true enough friend of Israel to say all this, warmly but firmly.<\/span><\/font><\/p>\n

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I invite you to comment on this column on my blog, www.nytimes.com\/ontheground, and join me on Facebook at www.facebook.com\/kristof.<\/em><\/span><\/font><\/p>\n

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