{"id":4230,"date":"2011-06-16T10:18:00","date_gmt":"2011-06-16T07:18:00","guid":{"rendered":""},"modified":"2025-01-08T19:58:26","modified_gmt":"2025-01-08T17:58:26","slug":"epalestine-arab-jewish-dialogue-is","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/epalestine.ps\/sambahour\/2011\/06\/epalestine-arab-jewish-dialogue-is\/","title":{"rendered":"Arab-Jewish dialogue: Is there a purpose?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\"> <span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\"> The Jewish Post &amp; News (Winnipeg, Canada)<\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\">  <\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\"> <span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\"> June 16, 2011<\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\">  <\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"4\"> <span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\"> <strong>Arab-Jewish dialogue: Is there a purpose?&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/strong><\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\"> <span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\"> By SAM BAHOUR&nbsp; <\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\">  <\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\"> <span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\"> The word <em>dialogue <\/em>inherently bears a soft, constructive meaning that few people  would quibble about. Dialogue is surely better than arguing, unquestionably better  than fighting, and absolutely necessary if we are to have any success whatsoever in  connecting with others on common ground, be it our neighbor, children, partner, or  mother.&nbsp; <\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\">  <\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\"> <span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\"> Add two seemingly opposite (and loaded) adjectives, Arab-Jewish, to the word  dialogue and suddenly it&#8217;s a whole new ball game. Now, this new concept comes with  luggage of stereotypes, biases, and even a touch of racism at times. Allow me to  explain.&nbsp; <\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\">  <\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\"> <span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\"> For starters, let&#8217;s see why the addition of these two seemingly innocent words, Arab  and Jewish, causes such an uproar when used together. The knee-jerk reaction is  that these two words are diametrically opposed. In reality this could not be further  from the truth, not ideologically or practically.&nbsp; <\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\">  <\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\"> <span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\"> Arab, as per a dictionary definition is &#8220;a member of a Semitic people originally from  the Arabian peninsula and surrounding territories who speaks Arabic and who  inhabits much of the Middle East and northern Africa.&#8221; Jewish, as per the same  dictionary, is defined as, &#8220;of or relating to Jews or their culture or religion.&#8221; So Arab  defines an ethnicity whereas Jewish is linked to the religion and\/or culture of  Judaism. Arabs are a multifaith people, they are Muslim, Christian, and yes, there are  even Jewish Arabs. However, when we use that loaded term &#8220;Arab-Jewish&#8221; we are  really comparing apples and oranges.&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\">  <\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\"> <span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\"> Many in the West have reduced the entire conflict in the Middle East to this  superficial Arab-Jewish paradigm. Palestinians, who are the part of the Arab people  at the forefront of the conflict with the State of Israel, have never, to this day, claimed  that their issue is one against Jews. As a matter of fact, Palestinians have historically  gone out of their way to explain that their quarrel is with the ideology of Zionism as  embedded within the practices of the State of Israel and Israel&#8217;s military occupation.  Palestinians have no quarrel with Jews because they are Jews. It is not the  Palestinians who have tried to equate Israel with only Jews. How could they, given  that Palestinians&#8211;Muslim and Christian&#8211;make up over 23% of the citizenry of the  State of Israel, although they are discriminated against institutionally in myriad of  ways?&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\">  <\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\"> <span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\"> So, as terminology, this &#8220;Arab-Jewish&#8221; mix is not so accurate. I believe that what  most people really mean is &#8220;Palestinian-Jewish Israeli,&#8221; or so I hope. But, for the sake  of discussion, let&#8217;s ignore the semantics and look at the issue at hand, dialogue  between two communities that are in conflict over a piece of land called  Palestine\/Israel. Is engaging in dialogue worthwhile? Is it worthwhile for over 60  years? If the positions are not known by now, will more dialogue clear things up? I do  not mean to disparage these questions; they are serious ones.&nbsp; <\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\">  <\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\"> <span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\"> I can recall growing up in Youngstown, Ohio and every so often engaging in an Arab- Jewish dialogue session. Many times we came together during difficult times. I can  remember, e.g.,&nbsp; during the Israeli invasion of Lebanon in 1982; following the Sabra  and Shatila massacre during that same invasion; during the first intifada; and at other  times when emotions were running high. I know the two communities across the US  also engaged, immediately following the 9\/11 tragedies. During all of these  encounters the goals were the same: remind our respective communities that  violence breeds only more violence, and that choosing to respond with common  sense and education was more important than taking revenge. For the most part it  worked.&nbsp; <\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\">  <\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\"> <span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\"> Meanwhile, at times the dialogue was not crisis-oriented, but rather a proactive  attempt to engage the two communities to better understand one another. This was  not limited to the US but happens also here in Palestine\/Israel, where there is always  a theme of &#8220;people to people&#8221; events, as dialogue is frequently referred to here. The  lessons of over 20 years are rather revealing. Palestinians, regardless of their  religion, and Jews, regardless of their position toward Israeli politics, are stunningly  similar. As a Jewish American friend of mine in New York, Adam Neiman, recently  wrote, we are &#8220;loud, stubborn, passionate and opinionated.&#8221; I agree.&nbsp; <\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\">  <\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\"> <span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\"> Things become difficult when the actions of the State of Israel are inserted into the  middle of the discussion. Many supposedly mainstream Jewish leaders blindly fall  into trying to defend the indefensible: dispossession, discrimination, and military  occupation of another people. Palestinians, as can be expected, refuse to be  subjects of another state&#8217;s search for their place in the world. Such a debate, after six  decades of an increasingly bitter reality, could perhaps be best understood by  reference to the law of diminishing returns.&nbsp; <\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\">  <\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\"> <span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\"> What is worth dialoguing about today, just as much as yesterday, is something that is  very dear to Jewish communities &#8211; social justice and equality. There is no logical  reason why dialogue groups should not be taking a side in the conflict in the Middle  East, not the side of Palestinians or Israelis, per se, but the side of ending the 44  years of military occupation, finally letting Palestinian refugees return home,  supporting both societies to respect the equal right of the &#8220;other,&#8221; and supporting the  stopping of violence, all kinds of violence.&nbsp; <\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\">  <\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\"> <span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\"> If I&#8217;m asked to choose between dialoging and fighting I will always choose dialogue  without a blink; but if I&#8217;m asked to choose to fight or to dialogue with a counterpart  who simultaneously is fighting my presence or funding such efforts by others, then  my choice would be very different: not to fight, but to resist, and not violently, but  nonviolently.&nbsp; <\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\">  <\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\"> <span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\"> Let&#8217;s<\/span><\/font> <font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\"> <span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\"> &nbsp;all dialogue on how to join forces to bring common sense and human and civil  rights back into focus, for Israelis, Palestinians, and even Jews and Arabs wherever  they may be.&nbsp; <\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\">  <\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\"> <span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\"> <em>Sam Bahour is a Palestinian-American business development consultant from  Youngstown, Ohio living in the Palestinian City of Al-Bireh in the West Bank. 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